MSMQ 3.0 / Cluster / Workgroup Mode and Storage Limits

[George Peters]

Quick question / issue.

We are hitting a max storage limit of what appears to be
8GB. We can't change the options listed below. It
complains about this is not valid operation in workgroup
mode. We are attempting to load up a large amount of data
for a test that is scheduled for Wednesday. However, it
seems that this limit is causing us to backlog on the
client's outbound queues, consuming a lot of resources .

Limit Message Storage To: 8388608
Limit Journal Storage To: 8388608

(can't uncheck these as well)

The queues are running in a clustered configuration. I
reviewed the FAQ document and do not recall a limit in
workgroup mode, I do recall the memory mapped file
limitation, but that the physical storage can reach up to
1TB on MSMQ 3.0.

If I change the settings on the physical nodes, it works
fine and I can remove the limit. These are in workgroup
mode as well, so I don't think the error coming back is
valid. I believe it has to do with the cluster resource.

Is there a way to limit the "memory" usage so that on a
2GB box, MSMQ can only consume 1GB, but leave the storage
limits off?

Thanks for any information and assistance.

George

[Doron Juster [MSFT]]

Please refer to
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/technologies/communications/msmq/wp_msmqfaq.asp,
"Administration FAQ" item #5 and "Clusters FAQ", item #12 for details on how
to set quota.
For journal quota, use the registry name "machinejournalquota".

Be aware that although storage size is practically not limited, there is
still a limit on the number of messages that can be stored. Please refer to
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnmqqc/html/resourcemgmtmsmq.asp?_r=1&frame=true
for more details. When setting quota, take into account the number of
messages that can be stored reliably, without consuming too much of kernel
memory.

Thanks, Doron
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Post by George Peters
Quick question / issue.
We are hitting a max storage limit of what appears to be
8GB. We can't change the options listed below. It
complains about this is not valid operation in workgroup
mode. We are attempting to load up a large amount of data
for a test that is scheduled for Wednesday. However, it
seems that this limit is causing us to backlog on the
client's outbound queues, consuming a lot of resources .
Limit Message Storage To: 8388608
Limit Journal Storage To: 8388608
(can't uncheck these as well)
The queues are running in a clustered configuration. I
reviewed the FAQ document and do not recall a limit in
workgroup mode, I do recall the memory mapped file
limitation, but that the physical storage can reach up to
1TB on MSMQ 3.0.
If I change the settings on the physical nodes, it works
fine and I can remove the limit. These are in workgroup
mode as well, so I don't think the error coming back is
valid. I believe it has to do with the cluster resource.
Is there a way to limit the "memory" usage so that on a
2GB box, MSMQ can only consume 1GB, but leave the storage
limits off?
Thanks for any information and assistance.
George

[George Peters]

Thanks for the response Doron,

I was able to change this reg entry plus
MachineJournalQuota last night. My other question was is
there a way to limit the cap on the "kernel" memory that
can be consumed without making the storage limit less than
2GB?

Thanks,
George

-----Original Message-----
Please refer to
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/technologies/communic

ations/msmq/wp_msmqfaq.asp,

"Administration FAQ" item #5 and "Clusters FAQ", item #12

for details on how

to set quota.
For journal quota, use the registry

name "machinejournalquota".

Be aware that although storage size is practically not

limited, there is

still a limit on the number of messages that can be

stored. Please refer to

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-

us/dnmqqc/html/resourcemgmtmsmq.asp?_r=1&frame=true

for more details. When setting quota, take into account

the number of

messages that can be stored reliably, without consuming

too much of kernel

memory.
Thanks, Doron
--
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

confers no rights.

..

Post by George Peters
Quick question / issue.
We are hitting a max storage limit of what appears to be
8GB. We can't change the options listed below. It
complains about this is not valid operation in workgroup
mode. We are attempting to load up a large amount of

data

Post by George Peters
for a test that is scheduled for Wednesday. However, it
seems that this limit is causing us to backlog on the
client's outbound queues, consuming a lot of resources .
Limit Message Storage To: 8388608
Limit Journal Storage To: 8388608
(can't uncheck these as well)
The queues are running in a clustered configuration.

I

Post by George Peters
reviewed the FAQ document and do not recall a limit in
workgroup mode, I do recall the memory mapped file
limitation, but that the physical storage can reach up

to

Post by George Peters
1TB on MSMQ 3.0.
If I change the settings on the physical nodes, it works
fine and I can remove the limit. These are in workgroup
mode as well, so I don't think the error coming back is
valid. I believe it has to do with the cluster

resource.

Post by George Peters
Is there a way to limit the "memory" usage so that on a
2GB box, MSMQ can only consume 1GB, but leave the

storage

Post by George Peters
limits off?
Thanks for any information and assistance.
George

.

[Doron Juster [MSFT]]

No, that's not possible. There isn't a quota on kernel memory that limit how
much msmq can allocate.

Thanks, Doron
--
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
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Post by George Peters
Thanks for the response Doron,
I was able to change this reg entry plus
MachineJournalQuota last night. My other question was is
there a way to limit the cap on the "kernel" memory that
can be consumed without making the storage limit less than
2GB?
Thanks,
George

-----Original Message-----
Please refer to
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/technologies/communic

ations/msmq/wp_msmqfaq.asp,

"Administration FAQ" item #5 and "Clusters FAQ", item #12

for details on how

to set quota.
For journal quota, use the registry

name "machinejournalquota".

Be aware that although storage size is practically not

limited, there is

still a limit on the number of messages that can be

stored. Please refer to

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-

us/dnmqqc/html/resourcemgmtmsmq.asp?_r=1&frame=true

for more details. When setting quota, take into account

the number of

messages that can be stored reliably, without consuming

too much of kernel

memory.
Thanks, Doron
--
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

confers no rights.

..

Post by George Peters
Quick question / issue.
We are hitting a max storage limit of what appears to be
8GB. We can't change the options listed below. It
complains about this is not valid operation in workgroup
mode. We are attempting to load up a large amount of

data

Post by George Peters
for a test that is scheduled for Wednesday. However, it
seems that this limit is causing us to backlog on the
client's outbound queues, consuming a lot of resources .
Limit Message Storage To: 8388608
Limit Journal Storage To: 8388608
(can't uncheck these as well)
The queues are running in a clustered configuration.

I

Post by George Peters
reviewed the FAQ document and do not recall a limit in
workgroup mode, I do recall the memory mapped file
limitation, but that the physical storage can reach up

to

Post by George Peters
1TB on MSMQ 3.0.
If I change the settings on the physical nodes, it works
fine and I can remove the limit. These are in workgroup
mode as well, so I don't think the error coming back is
valid. I believe it has to do with the cluster

resource.

Post by George Peters
Is there a way to limit the "memory" usage so that on a
2GB box, MSMQ can only consume 1GB, but leave the

storage

Post by George Peters
limits off?
Thanks for any information and assistance.
George

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